Wow. Kudos To Glenn Beck

Never thought I’d write that title.  But Beck is advocating that SOMEBODY needs to stand up for the gay Iranian teenage refugee and give him asylum, calling him a “modern day german jew.” 

Watch video here

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6 thoughts on “Wow. Kudos To Glenn Beck

  1. My first reaction after watching the video is: “Fuck the Netherlands and the UK. Somebody send a plane over there to pick him up and bring him over here to the United States.”

    You know what pisses me off the most about this?

    We have all these Christian Conservatives here in the United States (headed by Mike Huckabee) who are “so much smarter than anybody else”, and their massively intelligent brains tell them that “gay people aren’t born that way, they just decided that they want to be gay, because being gay in the United States is such a wonderfully perverted type of fun!!!! Yeee Haaa!!!!”

    Okay, Christian Conservatives, since you are so smart: If human beings are not ever born gay, then please explain to me why anybody who is not born gay would just arbitrarily decide to be gay in a society where they get slowly tortured to death if the government even suspects them of being gay?

    I’m obviously not as smart as a Christian Conservative, so please, Christian Conservatives, explain this one to me, so that I can grow closer to your gay hating God.

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  3. Okay, Christian Conservatives, since you are so smart: If human beings are not ever born gay, then please explain to me why anybody who is not born gay would just arbitrarily decide to be gay in a society where they get slowly tortured to death if the government even suspects them of being gay?

    Probably the same reason that people still commit rape in Iran; the need for sex is more powerful than the fear of punishment for doing it.

    You see, that’s the kind of answer you get when you try to exploit the unrelated problems of another person to bash Christians.

  4. Well, OP, I’m Christian, and I’m gay, so have at it. How do you explain me?

    One can be Christian and ascribe to the teachings of Christ himself without believing that the Bible is infallible. It’s a history book with lessons we should remember, but it’s also full of slant because of who wrote it. One must use judgement to find their own truth.

  5. I’m obviously not as smart as a Christian Conservative, so please, Christian Conservatives, explain this one to me, so that I can grow closer to your gay hating God.

    OV, lots of stuff here. First of all, I don’t think it’s fair to tar all Christians with the same brush. Perhaps you’re not, because you did also write “Conservative,” but not all Christian Conservatives are bigoted and/or ignorant. All I can say is that, thankfully, almost all of the Christians I come in contact with, including Catholic nuns are not gay hating bigots or ignoramouses.

    So what about those “Christians” who are anti-gay? Yes, many of them do somehow, against all common sense, believe that homosexuality is a choice. What I found was that many of these people confuse attraction with choice. They assume that a person who is married (to someone of the opposite sex) in and of itself means the person is straight. Some were surprised to learn that there were examples of married men, including pastors who preach against homosexuality, who had homosexual affairs. One would think that if sexuality was a choice, these persons would clearly choose to be straight.

    And as NDT’s answer suggests, some do equate homosexuality with rape (and even terrorism). So like the rapists who choose to attack their victims, homosexuals choose to be attracted to men (which again, they confuse with behavior).

    Of course, one can try to ask these persons if they “chose” to be straight, or imagine if they never had sex, who they are sexually attracted to. You might even get them to see your point about their sexuality. But at the end of the day, they are still in complete denial even when faced with obvious common sense. (If you think this sounds absurd, a couple of days ago, I had a conversation with a woman who believed something to be true. When I showed irrefutable proof that it was false, her mind still concluded that her originally belief was true, end of story).

    So why do they hold on to such a false belief? Because like the woman in my remark above, they have to believe it to justify their actions. They see people they love who hate gays, they go to church and hear their pastor condemn gays, and say God condemns gays as well (or at best, hear the love the sinner hate the sin crap). They see the condemnation of homosexuality hurt gay teens, and don’t have to feel the guilt when these teens grow up and find that (surprise!) a higher percentage of them become irresponsible adults.

    There are anti-gay “Christians” who do believe, to some degree, that homosexuality is not a choice. But many of them believe that it happened because of some deviation. And unfortunately many of them pretend to be therapists and come up with their quack theories (e.g., dominant mother, weak or absent father crap) with, of course, no evidence to back it up. In any case, the answer for that is for homosexuals to either remain celibate, or go to “reparation” “therapy” conducted by unqualified charlatans. And, of course, there is zero evidence that “reparation” “therapy” works. Almost all who enter it either become ex-gay, or in varying degrees supress their natural attractions.

    I am by no means a devout Christian, but I believe in God. I agree with Jamie’s statement above about Christ and the Bible. But I’ll go a little further. We really do not know fully the nature of God. Those who claim to know have only gotten that far from years of study. While the Bible says that man was created in the image of God, it’s actually the reverse. For a long time, God was believed to be anti-gay by most, because that’s exactly what most wanted to believe. But in time and after actual critical thinking, more and more are realizing that God isn’t necessarily anti-gay.

    Almost all the people I know, gay or straight, are either Christian or Jewish. And as far as I know, all of them believe there is nothing inherently evil about homosexuality and do not believe that God is gay hating.

    The Christian community and the gay community is just like most other communities. You can find plenty of good and bad in both. So just as I don’t condemn the gay community based on bad actions by some of them, I don’t condemn all Christians based on bad actions by some of them. I also don’t hold all persons of a community responsible for the bad actions of some of them. It’s about high time that all persons do the same.

  6. Have you seen this website?

    I actually don’t have a problem with Christians in general, especially since I’m one myself. I was raised Episcopalian. Actually, part of the Episcopal church is gay friendly, which the other part of the Episcopal church is really unhappy about. So, yeah, I completely agree with you, Pat. I’m not mad at Christians in general. I’m just mad at these Christian Conservatives, led by Mike Huckabee, who are so ignorant that they want to pass a constitutional amendment restricting the rights of gay people even more than they are already restricted. Mike Huckabee, and every other “intelligent” Christian Conservative, really needs to take a look at this website.

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